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PaulLaidler
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Joined: 21 Feb 2005
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Location: Salford, UK
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 Posted: Sun May 25, 2014 9:21 pm Post subject: |
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SIMPLEPLOT is an old third party library released by a company that no longer exists.
1. All we have is the online manuals and the simpleplot.dll. There are one or two experienced users out there who may be able to advise further.
2. Yes this is correct.
3. No. The DLL is 32 bit only. Also we do not have the code. This means that we can not fix any problems and porting to 64 bit would require a pipe between 64 bit ClearWin+ and the 32 bit SIMPLEPOT dll. So Simple Plot is not supported in 64 bit ClearWin+.
Some possible alternatives are %gr, Simfit, and OpenGL (%og). |
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aebolzan
Joined: 06 Jul 2007
Posts: 229
Location: La Plata, Argentina
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| Posted: Mon May 26, 2014 4:32 pm Post subject: Re: (Maybe Not Quite So) Simpleplotting |
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| Quote: | 1. In the on-line manual (Simpleplot Introduction) it says "Extensions are available for contouring and surface pictures, presentation graphics for high quality output and representations of 4D data."
What is meant by these 'extensions' ? |
see: http://silverfrost.com/manuals/fvisualization.pdf
| Quote: | 2. when using %pl , I assume that this is just a series of calls to simpleplot routines with 'default' parameters used for many things. i.e. it's a Simple simpleplot.
In fact it's just a (currently very limited) 'intermediate level interface language' to the simpleplot library Is this correct ? |
That's correct!. You can use Simpleplot in a "simple" way through the %pl routine or in full power by directly employing the Simpleplot subroutines.
| Quote: | | Having said that, it's not clear how specific font be requested for axis labels for example (to make consistent with any other text in the clearwin window ? |
Fonts is a problem with Simpleplot as you can only use the fonts provided by Simpleplot, which are not the best, but they work fine...you have to check that in the manual. See: http://silverfrost.com/manuals/fsupp216.pdf
| Quote: | | 3. Are there any medium/long-term plans to take the 'integration' of simpleplot into the CLEARWIN+ 'higher level language' a step further i.e. with other 'options' to the %pl command , or indeed other commands or is it just not feasible given the limited development resources (manpower/money) which obviously must be a big understandable factor ? |
already answered by Paul
| Quote: | | I only ask this to help judge/decide if it's worth investing a lot of time developing a program using Simpleplot for graphing, or if it may essentially become redundant. |
It's up to you.....some people find it quite usefull others prefer to plot using the drawing subroutines of FTN95. I find that once you understand the implementation of Simpleplot, its easy and fast, and quite customizable, but limited in some aspects as it was developed in the 90' when FTNXX was a product from Salford not from Silvefrost...
By the way: I never tested SIMFIT, maybe it is fine, but I don't know if anynone in this forum have used it in order to make a comment about. As far as I understand, it is a program and not a set of subroutines for a fortran compiler......
Another option could be DISLIN (http://www2.mps.mpg.de/dislin/), which seems more up today. Never tested, but maybe worth to see....I do not know why it is not mentioned in the FTN95 site....DISLIN is free for non-commercial use and the lastest version is from 2013...
Best regards,
Agustin
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DanRRight
Joined: 10 Mar 2008
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Location: South Pole, Antarctica
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| Posted: Wed May 28, 2014 5:39 am Post subject: |
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Let me offer the following. How about our UK guys find the guy who made this library (Intellius dot com or something?) and contact him. I do not see why he would say NO to releasing the code sources since product is essentially dead without further modifications.
Then we need just some minor cosmetic changes to add to it and it will become usable for the next 200 years.
Right now the Simleplot is simple & easy & and a bit buggy but mostly very very very ugly duck |
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DavidButland
Joined: 15 Jun 2014
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Location: Bridlington
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| Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2014 6:08 am Post subject: Simpleplot - can these dead bones live? |
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I am amazed to find that Simpleplot still has its friends after all these years.
Judy Butland designed Simpleplot for her Post Graduate Electrical Engineering research workers in the 1970's. It was well designed and continued to be developed for 30 years.
There's a lot of good stuff in there. If there are still any old Friends of Simpleplot out there, we would love to hear from you.
I stumbled across this forum by chance, and have offered to look at getting the last published version of Simpleplot working with the 32-bit ftn95 compiler. If this works, we can try the 64-bit compiler, but do not hold your breath.
Judy and I have long since retired to Bridlington in Yorkshire. We are currently engaged in helping 2 local school students design and market BridPlot - an Android app for graphing designed to be used in school science projects. See www.bussmk2.co.uk.
We still hold an annual reunion for old staff (and getting older) - a BUSS trip to Bridlington at the end of Summer. |
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stenlou
Joined: 24 Jun 2008
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Location: Germany and Denmark
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Joh-Silver
I have used Simple plot a lot and are still using it. I can get most things done with it (for geoscience). I will be happy to help you occasionally (and when I have time).
Can also send you various code if you need. Simpleplot cannot handle that many fonts but at the end, that is just cosmetics!
Sten |
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DanRRight
Joined: 10 Mar 2008
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Location: South Pole, Antarctica
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Sten
Please post your screenshots (use postimage.org or something like that) |
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