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[ThomasG]

Gibt es hier jemanden im Forum der mir den Inhalt einer RUN-Diskette DBOS/48 Version 2.71 oder 2.73 oder etwas entsprechedes per Mail schicken kann.
Ich w�rde mich freuen. Ich m�chte ein alten Fortran Programm zum Laufen bringen , aber bei beim Start von DBOS.EXE kommt immer der Fehlermeldung: �NOT Paging do disk�.

Ich erhoffe mir mit dem Programm DBOS_SET.EXE auf der Start-Dsikette unter anderen mit demBefehl DBOS_SET.EXE PAGING nach Ausf�hrung von DBOS.EXE, das das Problem behoben ist oder ich mit den Programmen auf der Start-Diskette das Problem l�sen kann.
Mein ei[b]gentliches Problem ist, das das Fortran Programm, das ich ausf�hren will, im Anschluss folgende Fehlermeldung ausgibt:

Leider kann ich hier nicht einfach ein PDF einf�gen, es sollte aber auch ohne die Fehlermeldungen klar sein.



Ich lasse das alles auf PCem.exe laufen!
Vielleicht hat auch jemanddas problem schon l�sen k�nnen oder dat einen andere hilfreiche Idee.

Mit freundlichen Gr��en

Thomas Glaubitz

Is there anyone in the forum who can email me the contents of a DBOS/48 RUN disk version 2.71 or 2.73 or something similar?

I would be delighted. I want to get an old Fortran program running, but when I start DBOS.EXE, I always get the error message "NOT Paging do disk."

I'm hoping that the DBOS_SET.EXE program on the startup disk, including the DBOS_SET.EXE PAGING command after running DBOS.EXE, will solve the problem, or that I can solve it with the programs on the startup disk.

My actual problem is that the Fortran program I'm trying to run subsequently displays the following error message:

Unfortunately, I can't simply insert a PDF here, but it should be clear even without the error messages.

I'm running everything on PCem.exe!

Maybe someone has already solved the problem or has another helpful idea.

Sincerely,

Thomas Glaubitz

[PaulLaidler]

Thomas

Old Fortran code will usually compile using FTN95. You can test this out without paying for FTN95 by downloading the personal edition from here...

https://www.silverfrost.com/60/ftn95/ftn95_personal_edition_download.aspx

This is likely to be the best way for you to proceed.

I don't have the DBOS drivers and I suspect that, even if you have them, it will be difficult to work that way.

[LitusSaxonicum]

Thomas,

Paul's reply is actually the best way forward. DBOS won't work with many of the later versions of Windows, only with a 16-bit version of MS DOS. The Personal Edition is a complete version of FTN95, with the sole difference being that when a program executes, a short message is displayed for a few seconds.

Even the personal edition comes with several extra features. One is that there are separate 32-bit and 564-bit compilers. Both will work in a 64-bit Windows setting. The other really important feature is ClearWin+, which enables you to put a complete, fully-functioning, Windows interface on your program, all in Fortran. I wrote a guide for the ClearWin+ beginner which you can download from the Documentation section of the SilverFrost website. Even so, you can stick with traditional Fortran input-output if you prefer.

FTN95 comes with many utilities as well as compiler and linker, librarian, GUI program development environment and debugger.

There are a few differences from the FTN77/386 and /486 versions, notably in the way graphics are handled, but many of the extra subprograms still work.

Just about any Fortran 77 will still compile and function perfectly, my only caveat being that you need to be a bit careful with unit numbers for I/O.

Eddie

[JohnCampbell]

The main difference between F77 and F95 is the increase in supported standard functions. You could have a few name clashes, but any global edit can fix this easily.

Also a lot of those non-standard extensions are no longer required as they have been defined in later standards.

FTN95 is much better, especially for:
the significant improvements with local, automatic and allocate arrays
standardised file open / read / write / close / inquire
system timing ( system_clock and cpu_time )

The likely reason you would like to use DBOS is due to previous use of FTN77's Clearwin support.
It is much better to convert to FTN95's Clearwin+. There is help information available to identify the new routines to adopt

I have a vague memory of previously providing 3 1/2" Ver 2.7? disks, but have no idea of what happened to them and have no access to those disk drives to find them. This would be late 80's or early 90's ! I soon adopted FTN95 in about 1998.

[LitusSaxonicum]

I can beat John, as I have FTN77/386 on 5.25" floppies!

Agreed that the revisions to Fortran have sometimes superceded the need for some extension routines, and also have provided constructs that many people think are better (I don't). However, a critical point is to get that old code working with the minimum of changes before you try to 'improve' or 'update' it, as if you fall into that trap you double the difficulty in resolving any problems you encounter.

Good luck with your project

Eddie

PS. And after using the Personal Edition to get that old software working, invest in a proper licence, which helps keep Silverfrost in business!

[ThomasG]

Vielen Dank f�r Eure Hilfe um das alte FORTRAN-Programm zu aktivieren.

Da ich das alte Programm aufgrund aktuellerer Bibliotheken nicht �bersetzen kann und auch nicht m�chte, ist es sehr sch�n, dass ich hier im FORUM eine Mitteilung erhalten habe das jemand eventuell f�ndig geworden ist.
Ich habe darauf geantwortet und hoffe er kann mir weiterhelfen.


Die Installationsdiskette zu DBOS.EXE mit den von mir ben�tigten Hilfsprogrammen k�nnte mir in dieser Hinsicht weiterhelfen. Ich erhoffe mir von dem Programm DBOS_SET.EXE (auf der Installationsdatei) eventuell die L�sung des Problems. Ich konnte das alte FORTRAN Programm noch mit der mir vorliegenden DBOS.EXE Version 2003 nutzen. Damals noch auf einem Windows-PC mit DOS-Emulation. Zur Zeit hatte ich es auf WINDOWS10 mit der Emulation PCem.EXE versucht zu starten und wie gesagt, es funktioniert nicht mehr wegen DBOS.EXE. Fehlermeldung �NO PAGING TO DISK�.
Ich w�rde mich freuen, wenn ich mit dem Inhalt auf der Installationsdiskette oder der Diskette selbst das Problem l�sen kann.

Dankesch�n f�r die Unterst�tzung.

Thank you very much for your help in activating the old FORTRAN program.

Since I can't and don't want to compile the old program due to more up-to-date libraries, it's great that I received a message here in the forum that someone might have found a solution.

I responded and hope they can help me.

The DBOS.EXE installation disk with the utilities I need might help me in this regard. I'm hoping the DBOS_SET.EXE program (in the installation file) might solve the problem. I was still able to use the old FORTRAN program with the DBOS.EXE version 2003 I have. Back then, it was on a Windows PC with DOS emulation. Recently, I tried to start it on WINDOWS 10 with the PCem.EXE emulation, and as I said, it no longer works because of DBOS.EXE. The error message is "NO PAGING TO DISK."
I would be happy if I could solve the problem using the contents of the installation disk or the disk itself.

Thank you for your support.