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LitusSaxonicum · Posted: Thu May 07, 2015 2:08 pm Post subject:

That's the frame or border or something.

For what it's worth, I spread my master window WINIO@s across a set of subroutines so that not one of them is too large. The WINIO@s for menus and toolbars in particular can get very long and intricate. If you get a bug, it's easier to find if it isn't the 132nd continuation!

Perhaps we need an option sub-maximise to show the frame. I'd like one for %gr which would be 'fill the whole remaining client area'.

Eddie

LitusSaxonicum · Posted: Sat Aug 22, 2015 7:05 pm Post subject:

One of my computers has updated itself to Windows 10, and I note that this appears to have no frame round an application, or perhaps it is 1 pixel.
I have been coping with different screen resolutions and versions of Windows AND different font settings (logical dpi) by keeping a database of sizes to set my %gr area, in order to make it fill the maximum usable size of window after allowing for the caption and menu bars, my toolbars, the frame and the taskbar. Windows 10 lies about the width/height of frame, saying it is 8 pixels when it is not. Windows also lies about the screen resolution using :

LitusSaxonicum · Posted: Fri Sep 11, 2015 11:55 am Post subject:

Once Windows 10 had completely installed, I have had (so far) no problem running anything, although to be fair I don't stress FTN95's applications much.

Buttons etc have gone back to being square-cornered as in Win95. Toolbars with %ib and %tb are the same as before, although toolbars made from %bb grey-out better than before (I use the variant where the icon remains coloured even when the button is greyed. The variant where the icon greys too turns a lot of icons into 'blobs'. This happens in %ib too, although there are ways of getting round it, they take a lot of work). The' button-press' illusion in %ib is not the normal paradigm in Windows 10 (and I'm beginning to forget Windows 8.1!), and even my icons in %tb form are too '3D' to match properly. However, the application that uses them most has 27 toolbar options, with 4 states to draw for each button (up, down, selected, greyed) making over a 100 drawings to do for each variant (normal, large font blah blah blah).

As the caption bar is the same colour as the top level menu names, they aren't differentiated well, but for Microsoft applications with a 'ribbon' this is less obvious because those top-level menu names are surrounded with a line that gives the illusion of being a tab.

Eddie