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2 Nov 2017 8:52 #20631

The update 8.20.0 will not update. It fails with an error that it cannot overwrite a file that already exists. In this case, it is ftn95.exe.

Since this is an update, shouldn't it overwrite the file?

2 Nov 2017 9:22 #20632

Yes but there must be something unusual here because it normally works.

If it is the only file that it fails on then I would back it up and delete it from the installation folder.

If it fails for all files then maybe you need to install under administrator priveleges.

2 Nov 2017 10:03 #20633

It had something to do with permissions, and it would also appear that McAfee was getting in the way. Took the last hour to figure it out.

I had to delete the entire folder (finally!), and did the install with only the 8.20.0 and it all appears to be working!

Now on to testing the code again.....

3 Nov 2017 8:54 #20635

Bill,

I also have issues with Macafee, like it won't let a computer access a networked printer. Time for it to go in the recycling, methinks.

3 Nov 2017 10:55 #20636

Where can I find v8.20 at all? I am unable to download it.

3 Nov 2017 2:27 #20637

v8.20 is currently only available to 'supported' users - those who have purchased a 'support' licence.

3 Nov 2017 2:43 (Edited: 4 Nov 2017 1:39) #20638

By the way what is support license? What it is doing and how it works?

Over quarter century when i use Salford/Silverfrost compilers i purchased these compilers 3 or 4 times (and twice out of my own pocket, so much I liked it, though the most first my use was with the pirated copy 😃. But i'm sure that without it i'd never try this company software as initially in the beginning of 90th it was 3-4x or even more overpriced over all other competition compilers sometimes reaching $1500, specifically compared to University software store discount prices where Digital (Compaq) or Microsoft Fortran prices were $200 or even $100. Pirating then was 100% practice not only in China but both South and North Pole and in between) and this licensing option somehow did not cross my view. Some other companies for example offer upgrades when the user for specified sum can upgrade his older version for never. Is this the same?

3 Nov 2017 3:40 #20639

Dan

Some further information is provided here...

http://silverfrost.com/P1001/shop/silverfrost_ftn95.aspx

4 Nov 2017 12:02 #20656

What is confusing ESD? I do not see anything which tells that you guys offer just the upgrades.

4 Nov 2017 1:33 #20658

ESD: Electronic Software Distribution - i.e. a download.

FTN95 used to be supplied on a CD. It is now download only.

We will upgrade any version of FTN95 (or FTN77) to the current version.


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4 Nov 2017 1:46 #20659

Still it is not clear how the upgrading works.

My suggestion would to add to the usual full version for full price just the software upgrades for reduced price. Kind of like a subscription. The benefit of that is that users can contact the developers directly or via this forum and ask for some specific features to be added or fixed. Of course if you like to keep PE version then these users also can ask for attention specifically with the bug fixes but subscription would offer some priorities

4 Nov 2017 2:00 #20660

That is the situation. Upgrades are cheaper than buying a new licence. The upgrade is a full copy of the compiler. Users can buy 'updates' which gives them access to any upgrades during the year.


-- Admin Silverfrost Limited
4 Nov 2017 9:19 #20664

I'll jump in here, because, as a SW developer, I have no trouble paying for a year of update capability, even if an update doesn't happen in any given year.

I've found this product to be just about as bug free (for what I'm doing and intend to do) as it can be. To be sure, when I do find something, it is usually something very obscure. I enjoy reading the comments on the forum because I always learn something new, and have incorporated a few ideas already.

So, the maintenance cost. Paying that cost, even if in a given year a new release is not made, is an investment on my part for continuation of compiler and library development. I'm not currently using the 64-bit capability. But I am sure that some of my last couple of maintenance fees was used to fund that development. Kind of my gift to you 64-bit users, if in a round-about way.

You are welcome!

For my product, the purchase and an on-going maintenance fee is the only way I can continue to develop and continue to work on the products that my customers use. And to listen to their needs and develop new features. And to fix those danged obscure bugs!

5 Nov 2017 9:31 #20667

I think if SF quickly completed native %PL to do professional 1D X-Y, 2D surfaceplot and 3D OpenGL graphics done in one line of Fortran code and make good library of flashy demos/examples/videos, no one would be hesitant. Temporally 3D can be substituted with MATFOR

This is not an end. There exist continuation to get all that graphics even more exciting. But that's later.

On Fortran side there are also few exciting opportunities of growth, like further optimization of run speed, supporting GPU computing, parallelization

Just look and compare how Intel Fortran sells. Worst in all cases then FTN95 besides being optimized in Polyhedron tests and supporting parallelization it completely dominates landscape due to right advertisement and association with major computing name Intel.

6 Nov 2017 2:31 #20670

I looked on a shelf and found my disks for Ver 1.14, dated 08-Jan-1998, complete with faded fax of serial number and install code. I can't find any earlier version, so have been paying maintenance since then. FTN95 has been my main Fortran compiler since then. The maintenance price has been extremely good value for what has been provided over 20 years.

I would recommend that all users should support FTN95's development with maintenance payments.

John

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