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eric_carwardine

G'day, folks Very Happy

I'm receiving almost-hourly - certainly daily - exhortations form Microsoft to "Upgrade to Windows 10!" Like ... NOW, man! The not-so-subtle implication being that if I don't do it NOW I'm likely to miss out on the free upgrade.

(Microsoft should have commissioned the Pet Shop Boys (if they still exist) to parody "Go West!")

Hmm ... after reading on this forum "src compiler failing win Win 10" I'm having misgivings. Will my Personal Version of FTN95 (Win32, Ver. 5.50.0 still function?

I was forced, when Microsoft stopped supporting their excellent Windows XP, to upgrade to Windows 7 - without any apparent benefit to me as user.

Rather than upgrade, and growing wearisome of what seems like 'planned obsolescence', perhaps I'll 'jump ship' into a Linux-based operating system - although I have no delusions as to the difficulties that would accompany being a 'rat' Sad

Eric, in Thornlie, Western Australia

DanRRight · Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 7:21 am Post subject:

Eddie wrote here that he had no difficulties with Win10.

eric_carwardine · Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 8:20 am Post subject: Re:

John-Silver · Joined: 30 Jul 2013 Posts: 1520 Location: Aerospace Valley

I think Dan's 'precis' that Eddie had no problems isn't 100% correct Eric, I think it would be fairer to say that he has overcome one or two small anomalies with the updating process which meant one or 2 oddities arose with FTN95, not FTN95 problms as such, although I'm sure eddie will confirm his exact experiences for you.

My personal view - don't touch it with a bargepole unless you like grappling with the idiocyncricites of Micro$oft !!!

After the 'update' icon mysteriously (and maliciously and illegally in my view) downloaded the whole 5-6Gb of update serupticiously without me knowing it (I joke not) I managed, not without some difficulty to disactivate and delete the downloaded files !!!
It can wait for another day, or millenium, as far as I'm concerned.
Imo no one will benefit a jot who has Win 7, except if you have maybe one of these swizzy, swipey, tabletty hurdy-gurdys !

You don't have to update immediately, It's supposed to be available for 1 year after initial launch (not sure if that's lobal launch or local to you) so no rush. It'll probably still be available for free afterwards too, unless M$ have got a shotgum pointed and cocked at their foot ! Smile

Before you make a deision, read a lot and understand all the problems which have arisen for others.
As I said, doesn't appear to affect FTN95 as such, but eh, who knows.

DanRRight · Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 10:47 am Post subject:

Well, i know Microsoft from the DOS 2.1. I'd also wait to update to Win10 till June next year as there are typically a lot of bugs in early versions unless people say that this version is some kind of an exclusion from the rule by being very clean. Tablets and some laptops probably need it though as Win8.1 and earlier are too dumb with touchscreens

eric_carwardine · Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 12:16 pm Post subject: Re:

LitusSaxonicum · Posted: Mon Nov 09, 2015 5:36 pm Post subject:

I think I described my experience in other posts. But here is a recap:

1. Small laptop supplied with W8.1. I considered that it had little to lose, so updated to W10 via WiFi. I found that the experience improved update by update. After the first stage in the upgrade I experienced fleeting problems running FTN95.
2. Similar small laptop running W7 (badly) after a system crash and new hard drive. W10 cured the previous problems, which were therefore software and not hardware, the installation was quicker and less troublesome. Had I done this first, I wouldn't have bought the other laptop!
3. On the experience of 2. I upgraded to W10 on my desktop. This had major problems with W7 and I rebuilt it with new hard drives and a clean install of W7 (all are 64 bit). So W10 was installed over a nearly-new install of W7. Process ran faultlessly, and on a fast PC connected via high speed broadband, was quick and easy. Everything works fine.
One of the advantages I have found wih W10 is that it picks up networked printers automatically. It also picked up my NAS likewise. Office 2013/16 deal with something called One Drive, and W8/8.1/10 all allow you to access it outside the Office apps - these things were the decider for me. The main downside is appearance. A further upside is that it boots faster than W7.
A relative of mine who had 8.1 on her tablet didn't like 10, but her understanding of anything to do with computers and mobile phones could best be described as minimal.
Eddie

wahorger · Joined: 13 Oct 2014 Posts: 1217 Location: Morrison, CO, USA

I've done the upgrade on two systems, one desktop system Windows 7 Pro, the other Windows 8.1 Home.

I had a few learning problems getting used to 8.1 when I got the laptop. Windows 10 is more like Windows 7 in how you can interact with it.

I had no problems with compiler or Plato, and the code already compiled ran just like it did before.

All in all, very trouble free. YMMV.

John-Silver · Joined: 30 Jul 2013 Posts: 1520 Location: Aerospace Valley

Eric, sorry for the delay getting back to you on this.

If you want to get rid of the update nagging and downloading (it it's been/being done) of the Win10 update , You can start first by trying the operations outlined here:-

http://www.howtogeek.com/218856/how-do-you-disable-the-get-windows-10-icon-shown-in-the-notification-tray/

There are several other websites I found with variants on the same theme.

If you have any problems then PM me about it and I'll try to remember (I can't even remember exactly myself, it was just relief at being able to do it and that the auto-update after the sneaky download hadn't activated.

Note the point it makes that Windows may try to re-install the related KB !!! and switch off auto-updates as instructed (and if/when you want to check for other updates on a periodic basis then make sure that one isn't re-installed !)

Good Luck !

John