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wahorger

Joined: 13 Oct 2014 Posts: 516 Location: Morrison, CO, USA
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 5:19 am Post subject: |
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Well, I bit the bullet and first tried to force a different User Profile (the easy solution?). That didn't full work, and left the system in an odd state. So, clean boot, reinstall everything.
This part was very interesting, as I hadn't really realized how many different tools I had on my system that made life easy for development and deployment. Many were obvious, but some were not, and when I needed them during my rebuild, I found I really missed them!
The good thing is now I can use the browse_for_folder1@() option z'41' without an issue. It all works as does my other system.
I just wish I knew what part of the system got "broken" and how I could have fixed it more easily.
N.B. I had to re-install every FTN95 compiler, starting at 7.10 to ensure I had the proper version with no Personal Edition splash screen. I'm hoping that the next release has a FULL moniker on it to prevent me from installing 9 versions of the compiler. Even though the install is quick, it's still a pain. |
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LitusSaxonicum
Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 1911 Location: Yateley, Hants, UK
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:07 am Post subject: |
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Bill,
I told you* (amidst a whole bunch of 'asides') that a clean install would fix it, and I very much regret that reinstalling so many other applications has wasted much time, but equally, I am glad for you that it worked. On the basis of several experiences I would estimate that the clean install takes about 3 days to get everything reinstalled afterwards.
Why Windows takes a dislike to one particular thing is a mystery only solvable by gaining a complete mastery of the Registry and its most arcane settings. That would take more than the odd 3 days now and then out of your life. A different User Profile simply inherits the bad genes from its parent, and is never a complete solution.
Eddie
*I don't mind the lack of effusive outpourings of gratitude, but if you can send the food parcels to us starving Brits, we'd be suitably grateful (apparently, after Brexit, shops will be empty). Unlike 80 years ago, there shouldn't be U-boat packs out there, but one never knows ... |
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wahorger

Joined: 13 Oct 2014 Posts: 516 Location: Morrison, CO, USA
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Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2019 11:59 pm Post subject: |
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Eddie, made me laugh, especially your Brexit reference. A good English friend of mine waxes poetic when speaking of all things Brexit, so I understand why you might wish food parcels.
The odd thing about user profiles was the Admin and both other user profiles (one was a guest account, for goodness sake) would work just fine. But not my development profile.
Yes, it has taken around three days (so far). One day of intense work, followed by the next two of just putting back what I needed (and had saved the downloads for). I still have more to do, but I'll take them one day at a time.
One advantage is my boot drive (and SSD) is relatively clean now. I opted to not use Adobe PDF, going for FoxIT instead (a better product in so many ways). And cheaper. I have a couple of pieces of Adobe SW that I'll load back on, but not the full suite as before.
I remember the "good old days" when a rebuild took about 1-3 hours and everything could just be loaded back from the backup device without having to go through installs, crypto verification of users, and other junk.
Ah, simpler days.
And, watch for the U-boats. Don't think the Germans are too happy with the UK right now.....
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PaulLaidler Site Admin

Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 5683 Location: Salford, UK
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 10:15 am Post subject: |
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My understanding is that if you need to install FTN95 etc. on a clean machine then you should be able to install your first licenced version and then go directly to installing the latest update. |
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wahorger

Joined: 13 Oct 2014 Posts: 516 Location: Morrison, CO, USA
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 3:28 pm Post subject: |
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Paul, that's good to know. Thanks! |
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LitusSaxonicum
Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 1911 Location: Yateley, Hants, UK
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 6:41 pm Post subject: |
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I recommend Helen Hanff's epistolary '84 Charing Cross Road' for food parcel info.
Eddie |
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John-Silver

Joined: 30 Jul 2013 Posts: 991 Location: Aerospace Valley
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:22 pm Post subject: |
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Bill wrote:
Quote: | And, watch for the U-boats. Don't think the Germans are too happy with the UK right now..... |
Tsk ... Tsk .... I have no idea what you might be referring to LOL _________________ ''Computers are incredibly rigid. They question nothing. Especialy input data.Human beings are incredibly trusting of computers and don't check input data. Together they are capable of cocking up even the simplest calculation ... " |
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John-Silver

Joined: 30 Jul 2013 Posts: 991 Location: Aerospace Valley
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Posted: Thu Feb 07, 2019 11:31 pm Post subject: |
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Eddie wrote:
Quote: | Unlike 80 years ago, there shouldn't be U-boat packs out there, but one never knows ... |
things evolve .... it's now the french fishermen who'll take over that role
As for food parcels, I found it really quite absurd the other day the story on the Beeb website about the 'interim plans' being mooted foe a 'simple system' o f filling a simple form on the internet before travelling.
It seems haulage companies are incapable of doing this and say they are against it !ting except those german lift spare parts
I mean, what on earth do they want for goodness ake.
It could (probably will in one form or another) be the final solution !
(For everything but those gernman lift spare parts I guess :-O) _________________ ''Computers are incredibly rigid. They question nothing. Especialy input data.Human beings are incredibly trusting of computers and don't check input data. Together they are capable of cocking up even the simplest calculation ... " |
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LitusSaxonicum
Joined: 23 Aug 2005 Posts: 1911 Location: Yateley, Hants, UK
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Posted: Fri Feb 08, 2019 9:22 pm Post subject: |
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German lifts? I was astonished once while in Holzminden to find that my hotel had a Schindler's Lift. Yet that was beaten in the humour stakes by the shop named Blumen Ecke a stone's throw away.
But seriously. The point is that Windows has so many settings and options that sometimes the only solution is a clean install. One shouldn't under rate just how effective it is. Similarly, you shouldn't underestimate the time it takes to get back all the software you used prior to the reinstall.
My view is that one should take the opportunity to carry out preventative maintenance and upgrades at the same time.
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