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silicondale



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PostPosted: Sun Dec 17, 2017 1:23 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd like to echo John's words - very much appreciate Paul's responsiveness. What other compiler developer has such close and productive interaction with their user base?

Having said that, I also agree about the small proportion of users who actually participate in this forum. However, this is probably quite normal. I have been on the other side of the fence in the past, as an applications system developer supporting a large international user community, of whom fewer than 5% ever took part in any user forums and meetings (this was before the days of the Internet and we had to go globetrotting to meet the users in person).

Specifically on %pl - speaking from personal experience, I found SIMPLEPLOT didn't do everything i needed, and developed my own graphics library using %gr and the Salford primitives such as draw_line_between@. Fortunately made easier by adapting an existing library that I had used before in different software environments. But of course if everyone does that, the same wheels get reinvented many times. That's why I'd really like to see the native %pl expand to something that can replace my (and anyone else's) old clunky code!
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John-Silver



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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 7:56 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

clunky maybe, but reliable I'm sure, or 'robust' as it's termed these days on the bullsh*^ bingo cards for work meetings Smile .

%pl is getting there, slowly, but is still far from reliable as far as some grass roots basics go.
Can't wait to see how the latest enhancements perform. Is the beta dlls release imminent any time soon Paul ?
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PaulLaidler
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2018 9:25 am    Post subject: Reply with quote

John

The next general release of intermediate DLLs will probably have to wait until the personal edition of FTN95 catches up.
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John-Silver



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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 2:08 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paul, my question was a 2-edged sword as it was intended to out a reply to both questions !
So when is the personal edition planned to be released ?
From your words above ('catches up') do I understand correctly that it's not a simple exercise and that changes are applied to 2 sets of code seperately ?
I thought it was just a question of applying the necessary 'restrictions' to the same full version code ?
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PostPosted: Sun Jan 14, 2018 3:27 pm    Post subject: Reply with quote

John

I don't have a simple answer to your questions. You will appreciate that the personal edition is free and is aimed at students learning Fortran who have no interest in the latest developments. All they need is a stable product.
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