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DanRRight
Joined: 10 Mar 2008 Posts: 2927 Location: South Pole, Antarctica
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:29 am Post subject: |
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Mecej4, The ultimate right way to handle this type of errors is via compiler only with /no_truncate. Other ways as we all see in my case fail because rely on faulty human psychology. But visual aid definitely a must in editor. In Notetab you have to open second window and scale both panel sizes +1 pixel to the limit. You will see that you touch the margin if you at 73+. I did not notice violation because started using touchscreen recently and make a lot of mistakes in moving and resizing windows with too fat fingers for the 13.3" screen when I remotely control my main computer. Another reason was my arrogance that this kind of errors is unlikely with all my shields. Third was that I actually remember that I checked the limit and the number was around 72 which again and again is ... a devilry LOL. Well, ok, my last reasonable explanation is that in the permanent hurry and very late night I looked at the working file instead of faulty because made few of them when experimented.
There exist few more levels of explanation - aging, for example. Or stress factor. Both became interesting to me. I permanently lose my cellphone, keys, wallet and glasses. Fun is that though I carelessly drop them easily everywhere (these are just few common places though), i can not believe that they are found then with big difficulty and often a lot of swearing typically not in these common places. OK I bought literally 100 glasses. Added police siren into cellphone activated even if it on silence. But still i often lose and couldnt easily find other things.
All my life I make tons of programming errors and thanks to FTN77 and then FTN95 easily find them. Compared to all my colleagues I more became a damn professional bug hunter. LOL. Even more, these skills developed by this compiler push to find errors, lies, tricks everywhere in the life, politics, art, religions... But inability to find the damn wallet or keys literally explodes me. So psychology of this started to be interesting as it may be related to the error I made in this thread. And few others I couldn't easily find. Or could it be more related to psychiatry? . I'm damn serious. How many times I mentioned Altzheimer? Or super-arrogance? I don't hear about similar symptoms from older programmers. |
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JohnCampbell
Joined: 16 Feb 2006 Posts: 2615 Location: Sydney
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:52 am Post subject: |
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The following example still produces error 612 Code: | real*4 Ct_Hull (100,100,100)
integer i,j,k, iii
real Ctbr_Sum
Ctbr_Sum = Ct_Hull(j,i,k)(iii)
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It appears there is a problem suspected with an array section ? |
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PaulLaidler Site Admin
Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 8217 Location: Salford, UK
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 8:26 am Post subject: |
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I have logged this for investigation. |
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DanRRight
Joined: 10 Mar 2008 Posts: 2927 Location: South Pole, Antarctica
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:03 pm Post subject: |
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John-Silver,
Thanks for the nice link! In one single post you found me 7 billion of different degree colleagues by insanity
Paul,
Does fixed /no_truncate find this error (my 7.10 does not)?
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mecej4
Joined: 31 Oct 2006 Posts: 1899
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 12:32 pm Post subject: |
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Dan, I felt that "over confident" or "too trusting" would have been more apt than "arrogant" in describing your outlook. And, as someone famous (Mark Twain) said, the issue is well described by "It ain't what you don't know that gets you into trouble. It's what you know for sure that just ain't so".
To compensate for the forgetfulness that comes with age, one can follow the principle of "Trust but Verify" and develop a set of checks and redundancies in one's activities, whether that is about finding keys or exceeding the 72-character limit in fixed format Fortran. After a couple of years, you may be pleasantly surprised to find that you are using these redundant checks less and less, and even old dogs can learn to do old tricks better. See http://www.brainyquote.com/quotes/quotes/d/davidmamet478663.html . One more link on finding keys: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j8e-X15JuCc . |
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DanRRight
Joined: 10 Mar 2008 Posts: 2927 Location: South Pole, Antarctica
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:09 pm Post subject: |
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Mecej4, Will think about this, thank you very much for suggestions. And for song! Great i'm not alone. You guys made my day... well... night ...again.
But...Meantime what definitely i have to do ASAP is to stop my workaholic addictive behavior. I found that i lose more time fixing and rewriting stuff later if i'm not in perfect shape, sleepy, tired etc when do programming.
Another is vision. It is very important to have great screen. Amount of information on screen is increasing, fonts decreasing, vision deteriorating, amount of typos skyrocketing.
I plan to change my 2- or 3-monitor setup to 52" 4k monitor for which i think to take latest 4k TV with HDMI 2.0 or Displayport and IPS matrix. That is the size some people recommend for greater productivity, not 27, not 32, not 35 or 40 but >50". I used before 62" screen and found it very pleasant - as to me i will not need to use tricky value very hard to find (+0.5) large size frameless reading glasses then. 50" monitor is OK, they became cheap. But it's kind of stupid to buy today 60-70" 4K TV for being a monitor and to be also a TV because 4K TV needs to be more then 85" in any even small size rooms to see its resolution advantage. Curved screens give additional 10" in angular dimension but all that large size gear did not drop to reasonable prices yet. Any suggestions here, guys? All, don't hesitate to share your productivity tricks and thoughts! |
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PaulLaidler Site Admin
Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 8217 Location: Salford, UK
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 1:43 pm Post subject: |
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Dan
Version 7.2 is now available for you to try. |
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DanRRight
Joined: 10 Mar 2008 Posts: 2927 Location: South Pole, Antarctica
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 2:35 pm Post subject: |
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Paul,
Link says it's still 7.10 |
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PaulLaidler Site Admin
Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 8217 Location: Salford, UK
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Posted: Wed Apr 01, 2015 7:15 pm Post subject: |
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Have you downloaded the new version available from yesterday?
If so, are you sure that you are actually using the new version? |
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DanRRight
Joined: 10 Mar 2008 Posts: 2927 Location: South Pole, Antarctica
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Posted: Thu Apr 02, 2015 2:13 am Post subject: |
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Note at the end, that it is still a devilry until one finds how this is possible that *** I did not fix the error*** (because obviously I did not know what it was till the page 3 of this thread) but as I wrote ***the source code somehow fixed itself***.
Decently though there exist some small chance, which I do not remember, that trying to resolve abrupt crazy problem appeared from nowhere in the middle of the night, angry, I tried everything and pushed Ctrl+Z to undo this spurious space symbol which might land into editor |
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PaulLaidler Site Admin
Joined: 21 Feb 2005 Posts: 8217 Location: Salford, UK
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Posted: Thu May 26, 2016 2:03 pm Post subject: |
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John Campbell's strange error report earlier in this thread has been changed to "Bracketed expression found where one was not expected". |
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